The Clemson Dubcast

Martin Jenkins

Martin Jenkins was a part of a class-action lawsuit that sued the NCAA and led to the recent harsh rebuke of the NCAA's model by two Supreme Court justices.

Jenkins joins the podcast to reflect on what it all means and where college athletics could be headed with athletes now able to profit from their names, images and likenesses and, perhaps in the future, getting an actual cut of the monstrous revenues college football generates.

When Jenkins played at Clemson from 2010 to 2014, NCAA rules limited schools from providing more than one meal per day to athletes. Now players at Clemson and elsewhere eat three meals a day at lavish dining facilities in addition to getting checks for cost of attendance.

For Jenkins, the wheels for joining the lawsuit were set in motion after he wrote the song "We Too Deep" and was told NCAA rules prohibited him from capitalizing on the popularity of it (it has become a staple at Clemson home football games, and the official YouTube video Jenkins created currently has more than 6.5 million views).

Jenkins also reflects on his deep level of love and admiration for Dabo Swinney. The two might have some philosophical differences on the topic of compensating college athletes, but he said it's never gotten in the way of their relationship.

Jenkins, who lives in Atlanta and works in the insurance industry, is a regular at Clemson football games and marvels at how far Swinney has taken a program that hadn't won 10 games in two decades when Jenkins began playing for the Tigers.

 

Brandon Streeter, Tyler Grisham, Robbie Caldwell, Mickey Conn, Todd Bates

Five Clemson assistant coaches sit down for in-depth discussions on their position groups.

Earlier this week, Dabo Swinney opened up his football operations building to the media and allowed his coaches to spend hours mingling with those who cover Clemson on a regular basis.

Streeter is quarterbacks coach for the Tigers. Grisham coaches receivers. Caldwell oversees offensive line, Conn safeties and Bates defensive tackles.

Clemson begins preseason camp on Aug. 6.

 

Andrew Miller

Andrew Miller, 57, has been at The Post and Courier of Charleston for decades. Because of pandemic-related budget cuts, Miller had to move from his love of sports to the business section where he's had to start from scratch in some ways as a reporter.

Miller goes back a long way to the days of Tommy West and Tommy Bowden, and he's full of stories from his time covering Clemson on a full-time basis.

In the summer of 2003 at Bowden's media golf outing, Miller was planning to be in the featured group with the head coach. He was irritated when sports information director Tim Bourret asked him for a huge favor: "Can you play not with Tommy but with our new receivers coach instead?"

That coach was Dabo Swinney.

"I didn't get in five words the entire round," Miller said of getting to know the man who'd be the Tigers' head coach five years later.

Miller reflects on how the changing nature of media access has made it harder for reporters to develop relationships with the people they cover. He also looks back to close, personal relationships he's had with various figures including Bowden, Reggie Herring, Willie Simmons, Monte Lee and others.

 

 

 

Josh Needelman

Josh Needelman joins the podcast to discuss why he chose to leave his job as Clemson beat reporter for The Post and Courier after a two-year stint in the Upstate.

Josh is from New York, and a year of being away from his family because of the pandemic reinforced to him the importance of being close to loved ones -- particularly his twin brother Scott, who is autistic and nonverbal.

Having joined the Clemson beat after covering UVA, Josh saw in full color the immensity of big-time college football -- and the always entertaining, sometimes controversial Dabo Swinney.

Josh gives his thoughts on how Swinney is portrayed in the national media and also shares his philosophy on how much or how little time is necessary to spend on social media when you're trying to cover a team and establish a brand.

 

 

Teresa Padgett, mother of Justin Foster

The story of Justin Foster's past year has been well chronicled: a year ago he tested positive for COVID and then dealt with complications that left him not remotely fit to play football for Clemson during the 2020 season.

Foster announced he was giving up football after the season, but then a vaccine shot markedly improved his COVID long-hauler symptoms. And then visits to doctors at Duke University gave him renewed confidence that he could safely return to playing football. In May he announced his return, and now he's in Clemson preparing for the 2021 season.

Justin's mother, Teresa Padgett, joins the podcast to reflect on what this has all been like for her.

 

 

 

William Qualkinbush

Clemson radio personality William Qualkinbush joins the show to talk the swirl of change in college athletics, most notably the move to Name, Image and Likeness.

Qualkinbush's views on NIL have evolved as he learns more about what the new landscape might look like, but he's firmly against a pay-for-play model that some say is a virtual certainty after the Supreme Court's scathing rebuke of the NCAA earlier this week.

Qualkinbush also talks about his career, which often brings a logjam of responsibilities including radio play-by-play for Clemson sports in addition to 15 hours a week on his WCCP-FM radio show that runs from noon to 3.

 

 

Joe Person

Joe Person has spent a long time covering the Carolina Panthers, and before that he spent a long time covering South Carolina football.

Person has vast experience dealing with powerful personalities including Cam Newton, Steve Spurrier and Lou Holtz.

Person shares what it was like to break out of his comfort zone by moving from college football to the NFL, how he goes about doing his job amid a changing media landscape that includes competition with the team he covers, and what he learned from the late Rick Bonnell who recently passed away unexpectedly.

Person had some unforgettable experiences covering Spurrier, including regular 7 AM phone calls from the Gamecocks coach when he didn't like something Person wrote for The State newspaper.

Person was present at Death Valley for the infamous 2004 brawl between the Gamecocks and Tigers in Holtz's final college game.

 

Bob Thomas

It's been quite a ride for Bob Thomas over the last 15 years.

A longtime newspaper guy and distinguished chronicler of Florida State football during the Bobby Bowden dynasty, Thomas was laid off by the Florida Times-Union in 2008.

He then took a job with Florida State as the head sports information director for football and found himself navigating the tumult of 2009 when FSU's administration told Bowden it was time to go.

When Jimbo Fisher arrived, the coach had other ideas about the football team's communications and Thomas was pushed to a different department.

Just a year ago, Thomas found himself a victim of pandemic-related job cuts within FSU's athletics department. He's now adjusting to his new job as media specialist for FSU's College of Medicine.

Thomas is a trove of knowledge and stories about FSU's incredible run under Bowden, and he explores the similarities of that era with the current Clemson-dominated ACC world.

Thomas also gives his thoughts on how long it'll be before the Seminoles can contend with the Clemson monster.

 

 

Brett Jensen

Brett Jensen, formerly a Clemson beat reporter and currently a news reporter for Charlotte radio station WBT, gives his perspective on his tense exchange with North Carolina governor Roy Cooper this week.

Jensen, who said his station has not been called on to ask a question over the last 14 months at routine press briefings from the governor and his staffers, said other outlets are also being frozen out.

Jensen reflects on the need for accountability from all public officials regardless of political affiliation, and then draws parallels to his former profession as a scrutinizer of highly-paid football and basketball coaches.

Another topic covered is how media access has changed overall over the years, both in sports and in general news.

 

 

 

Drew Butler

Former Georgia and NFL punter Drew Butler joins the podcast to talk Clemson-Georgia, and also his role in helping college athletes navigate the coming age of Name, Image and Likeness. Butler works for Icon Source, which connects both pro and college athletes to businesses that are interested in sponsoring them.

Butler is also the creator and host of Punt And Pass podcast, which he co-hosts with former Bulldog quarterback Aaron Murray.

When he was with the Arizona Cardinals, Butler became good friends with former Tiger Chandler Catanzaro and said Catanzaro helped give him a deep appreciation for what Dabo Swinney has built at Clemson.